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Oh man, this is something else. Fortunately, the studies that show the nutritional benefits of organics do exist, from real accredited universities no less (UC Davis, for one). Alas, I don't have them at my fingertips but I may do some searching and come back to post them here.

The incident with organic produce being contaminated with bacteria from manure was a problem with irrigation.
Manure is used on conventional farms as well as organic. An organic farmer would "cook" the manure in a compost pile before using. It is also logical to wash produce before using it.

The Pringles scenario says alot about what consumers really want: Food that tastes GOOD. Most of the conventionally grown produce is grown for storage and shipping and not flavor.
What organic farmers offer is food that has been grown in a caring and nurturing environment by people who care about the environment.
Conventional Farming is like raising kids in a sterile world and not giving them hugs and kisses because you are afraid of bacteria, then giving them all sorts of medications to keep them from getting sick.

Whoever Fred is, he needs to check the facts just one tiny step deeper before exercising his rights to free speech.

1. Most organic milks you find in the stores ARE pasteurized.

2. The culprit of the spinach outbreak last year: factory-farmed grain-fed cattle (hmmm, let me see, sort of defeats your arguement, doesn't it?). Please, just get the facts straight: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/opinion/21planck.html?ex=1316491200&en=80e5e468fa1cdfb0&ei=5088

3. There is a material difference between plant self-generated pesticides (it's called immune system) and chemically synthesized pesticides. Let's not even talk about the harm of synthetic chemicals. Plant self-generated immunity does not result in the gulf of Mexico dead zone, the size of NJ. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0525_050525_deadzone.html
It is from agricultural fertilizers and pesticides.

Unfortunately I just don't have time to point out all the glaring holes in Fred's comments.

Perhaps now that Washington State Univ is offering a degree in Organic Agriculture there will be some more reliable information coming out of colleges. One can hope.

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